A Goat’s Diet: You wouldn’t think feeding a goat is complicated.
A Goat’s Diet: You wouldn’t think feeding a goat is complicated.I mean, let ’em loose in the overgrown backyard and they’ll be happy, right? Unfortunately, no.
Surprisingly enough, goats don’t prefer grass. Sure, they’ll nibble at it a bit, and if it’s all that’s available they’ll force it down, but it’s like brussels sprouts to them. They’ll eat it if they have to, but please for the love can they have something else for dinner?
The first day I called myself a goat owner, I swore I’d always feed my goats the best of the best so I could have the healthiest goats in the world. The best supplements, the best hay, the best minerals, the best herbs, and best goat diet that I could provide!
Problem is, raising goats is a lot like raising children. You have all the best intentions in the world to feed your kids a well-balanced diet but then life happens and the dog peed on the carpet for the upteenth time and you didn’t get any sleep last night and yes, cake is a perfectly normal breakfast.
Preventing Goat Problems in the Future
Take it from somebody who has definitely slacked in the goat feeding department — a well-balanced goat diet is going to pay off in the long run. Not only will you be able to avoid sickness and expensive vet visits, you’ll also have an easier time getting your goats pregnant and their milk supply will be out of this world.
The following is a list of what we have committed to feeding our goats. My list follows the common guidelines for feeding goats, but also has additional supplements to really boost the health of your goat. If the supplements/minerals section stresses you out or makes you worry about cost, just know you’re feeding a very small amount per day (about 1 TBS.) so it should totally be doable. Plus, don’t your adorable goats deserve the best?
Hay (90-100% of their diet)
When I say “hay”, I’m not referring to those yellow bales of straw that you see on wagon rides. I’m referring to a green hay that consists of alfalfa, timothy, or bermuda grass. Hay can come in the form of actual bales, or in the form of compressed pellets. In our experience, our goats eat the pellets too fast and become bloated easily. The hay takes more time to eat and has long stems, which helps stimulate the production of digestive juices in their rumen. While it is true that goats tend to waste hay by tossing some on the ground (and they’ll refuse to eat it once it hits the ground — picky little buggers), you can easily remedy this by making a hay feeder specially made for goats or purchasing a pre-made one here.
How we feed Hay to our Goats:
If you watch our videos on Youtube, you’ll the type of feeder we use.
Forage – (5-10% of their diet)
Most people have some kind of pasture that is filled with lots of various grasses & weeds. Not only does the pasture provide some variety to their diet, goats are also foragers by nature and like to spend their day sniffing around and nibbling at things. Your goat will be MUCH happier being able to wander around nibbling at weeds & such. Also, having a pasture or dividing it into sections and doing pasture rotation is a great way to keep worms down. In Arizona, we don’t do a ton of pasture rotation because we don’t have many worm issues due to our arid climate but it can work wonders for keeping parasites under control in wet climates.
How we help our Goats Forage for Food:
We have a small 1/4 acre section for the goats to forage on. There’s plenty of grass & weeds. We also will give the goats garden waste as well as the occasional plant cuttings from our neighborhood.
Grain/Seeds – (0-10% of their diet)
Goats don’t need grain to survive, in fact, they can live happily on pasture or hay, or a combination of both, but grains can help provide extra vitamins & minerals, as well as 12-16% extra protein. I’ve put my goats on a 100% pasture and hay diet (also called grass-fed) and I’ve also fed them grain. There is a boost in milk when I feed grain and I believe it really helps cover any mineral deficiencies you may have on your farm. If you have a pregnant or milking goat, I definitely recommend giving a cup a day of grain. Make sure NOT to overdo it on grain. A classic newbie goat owner mistake is to overfeed grain and then their goat will bloat and very often die. BE SURE to only feed a small handful (no more than a cup) per day and you can feed more if your goat is a larger breed or producing more milk.
Supplements/Minerals (1-2% of their diet)
Minerals are an important part of a goat diet. Goats have a high need for minerals, so you need to make sure that your goats aren’t missing out on any essential elements.
How we feed our Goats Supplements & Minerals:
I offer three choices 1) Salt 2) Kelp/Herbamins 3) Sweetlix Magnum Milk. More details on this can be found here
Deworming
You can either deworm your goat weekly with an herbal mixture or you can deworm every 6 months with a store bought one. Because we live in Arizona and we don’t have a huge problem with worms, we go the herbal route, but either way is fine:) Deworming is important because if your goats have a high load of worms, the worms will steal nutrients from your goat and make your goat have a more difficult time keeping an adequate goat diet. Don’t forget this step!
Extra Treats
Goats love carrots, greens, fresh fruit, and dried fruit like raisins. Don’t give them large amounts of this, just a small treat here or there to keep a well-balanced goat diet. If you would like to know which plants are poisonous to goats , you can Click here for a full list on poisonous plants for goats.
What to change when feeding bucks & wethers
We recently brought two new bucks to the herd — Zorro comes from Blue Cactus Dairy Goats and Winston is the son of our very own Willow. When feeding bucks, you’ll take care to only feed them hay or hay pellets, but avoid all grain. Grain can throw off a male goat’s calcium to phosphorous balance and cause painful urinary stones. It’s better to avoid grain all together and instead stick to hay, garden scraps, and minerals/herbs like I’ve listed above:)
Keeping your Goats Healthy
What I love about a goat’s diet is how incredibly simple it is. They eat 90% hay, and the rest of their diet is full of a variety of grains, seeds, supplements, herbs, & minerals. Once you have all your feed supplies on hand, you’ll find it’s actually really affordable & easy to keep your goat health & strong. If you’re raising milking goats, making sure your goats have stellar health throughout their pregnancies & lactations is a must.
And after you’ve got their nutrition taken care of, you can use your time to snuggle & play with your adorable goats and live worry-free about their health, which is the best feeling ever:)
What type of grain do you feed your goats? Trying to find something good to give them on the milk stand.
Hi Ash-
You can find some of the products DaNelle uses on her Resources page: https://www.weedemandreap.com/resources/
And also her Amazon page: https://www.amazon.com/shop/weedemreap?listId=3K0J0CWBA8ESS
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hi Bobbi,
6 weeks ago, each of my goats got 2g copper bolus for the first time. I also added sweetlix to their diet and replamin gel once a month. All of them look healthier (softer coat and no fishtail), except 1. The milking mama. Her fishtail is crazy! She gets plenty of kelp (with Land of Havilah Herbamins & Parasite Formula mixed in). Wondering if I should give her another 2g dose of copper or feed her some Herbamins or Parasite formula directly instead of trusting her to eat enough from the kelp?
Hi Alex-
You can try giving her another 2g dose since the usual full dose is 4g. Just be sure not to dose her again for 8-12 months. If she doesn’t show improvement contact your vet because there may be other issues going on.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
How does Danelle give baking soda to her goats I saw this in a video!!
Hi Michelle-
This article and video talk about how DaNelle gives baking soda.
https://www.weedemandreap.com/supplements-for-goats/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrtTTH7tdnA
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hi, I was just wondering if you guys have ever had any problems with your bucks, and feeding them grain.
I had a buck and we had been spoiling him with grain as all goat owners do. It was a good amount probably half a cup a day and all of a sudden he was just sitting out there in the field screaming his head off. I went out to check on him and he couldn’t pee. He would try but nothing would come out and we took him to the vet and he ended up passing. I just wanted to know if you guys have ever had any problems like that with feeding your bucks grain?
Hello-
I am really sorry about your buck.
No, DaNelle has not. It sounds like your buck had urinary calculi. It’s an imbalance between calcium and phosphorus. Bucks, and other goats really should not be fed grain for that reason and because it bothers their rumens.
Giving pregnant does a cup or so is ok for the extra nutrition, but other than that it’s not necessary.
This article gives a lot of good info about urinary calculi: https://www.tennesseemeatgoats.com/articles2/urinarycalculi06.html
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hi what is inside your grain I want to have healthy little goats like yours!!
Hi Michelle-
The grain DaNelle uses can be found on her Resources page: https://www.weedemandreap.com/resources/
You can mix in sum BOSS and pumpkin seeds and then also follow DaNelle’s mineral suggestions.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hi I’m new to Nigerian dwarf goats and I don’t really want to feed them grain but I give them sunflower seeds (BOSS) to help prevent worms. I feed them about a half cup. I have a couple of pregnant goats. Is that enough for them or should I start giving them a cup each? Also should I give any to my buck? Do you recommend any other seeds that will benefit them? Thank you for your time!
Hi Rebecca-
DaNelle recommends giving a cup of grain for pregnant does. This includes sunflower seeds, pumpkin seeds, and a mix of pellets that can be found on her resources page: https://www.weedemandreap.com/resources/
For deworming, she uses Land of Havilah to naturally deworm her goats. https://landofhavilahfarm.com/loh/product/parasite-formula/
DaNelle recommends these minerals and supplements for all goats: https://www.weedemandreap.com/goats-minerals-what-you-need-to-know/
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
BOSS are very high in phosphorus and for this reason, they should not be fed to male (wethered or intact) goats. They are also 25% fat, so most goat owners give less than 1/4 cup/ day, I would think.
I had Bookmarked this site for the minerals info. Did it used to contain a blend she used with specific ingredients? I had Then sitting in a wishlist on Amazon and am wondering what the recipe was. Has she always recommended the Herbamins/kelp? Or did she used to make her own blend? I’m just curious which route I should Go. We’re new to Nigerian Dwarf Goats this year. Thanks!
Hi Crystal-
Yes, she used to use the Pat Coleby mix, but now uses the Herbamins, etc. listed in the article.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
hi janelle im going start a sanctuary soon and i would love to know if you can share the cost of the custom goat barn and where you get your supplements for your goats because i want to do the same and can you link where you get them from thank you so much i love watching your videos cant wait to see the pizza oven upload thanks again
Hello Olivia-
This article talks about the goat barn DaNelle built. https://www.weedemandreap.com/our-custom-goat-barn/
If you click on the links in the article it will take you to the products she purchased and show you the costs.
As for supplements, just click on the links in this article: https://www.weedemandreap.com/goats-minerals-what-you-need-to-know/
It will take you to those products.
Good luck with your sanctuary!
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hi! I’m new to livestock and will be getting some donkeys and of course, goats. I live out in the desert on the far west side. I’ve been trying to research safe trees to eat, and there are tons that tell you what they can’t have, but not as many telling you what they can. So, I was wondering what that giant tree is in your yard-or what trees you feed your goats. Thanks!
Hi Cort-
DaNelle has a pecan tree in the backyard.
Here is a list of some of the things goats can eat and what is poisonous to them: https://fiascofarm.com/goats/poisonousplants.htm
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hello! I am a young girl who has just started raising Alpine dairy goats this February. I bought 2 doelings, 1 buckling and one whether. I feed the doelings one cup of just normal goat feed from family farm and home ( they share the one cup ). I feed the buck and whether one cup of normal goat feed, also. (The whether is still bottle feeding but every one else is not). They are also on pasture and a mix of clover and alfalfa hay that we grow in our own field. For the doelings, they are in a pasture with sheep, a donkey, and a mini zebu cow. They are fed separately because the copper and other minerals in their grain is not good for the other animals. Should I be feeding my bucks more or less of the grain? How much hay should my buck be getting? Right now he is on 1 flake a day.
Hopefully, I can get these questions answered simply.
-Mayberry Acres, Anabelle
Hi Anabelle-
Goats don’t really need grain as it can upset their rumen. And be cautious of the ratio of phosphorus and calcium you are feeding your goats, especially the males as they can develop urinary calculi. This article has more information on that: https://www.tennesseemeatgoats.com/articles2/urinarycalculi06.html#:~:text=Urinary%20Calculi%20prevents%20both%20urination%20and%20breeding%20in%20males.&text=Feeding%20too%20much%20grain%20concentrates,to%20develop%20in%20the%20urine.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hiya! 1 year ago, Danelle posted the video “A Simple Guide to Feeding & Caring for Goats” and she mentions giving a TSP of an herbal/yeast mix (Chaparral, Milk Thistle, Dandelion, Nettle, Yeast). I couldn’t find this mix on the website! What are the proportions and where does she get her ingredients? Thanks 😊
Alex
Hi Alex-
DaNelle now just gives the Herbamins blend from Land of Havilah website.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hi Danelle, its the first time I’m commenting anywhere on the internet, I would like to know, what breed of sheep did you all have, before you transitioned to all goats?
Hello-
DaNelle raised Katahdin. You can read about it here: https://www.weedemandreap.com/how-to-raise-grass-fed-lamb-like-a-boss/
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hi Lyla-
You can find that information in the article and on DaNelle’s website. Also, please check out these articles to know proper ratios, minerals, and supplementation. And if you are really concerned contact your veterinarian and your local county ag extension agent. They can give you personalized information for your specific goats, your feed and pasture/hay quality, and your local area’s mineral deficiencies. Be sure to test your pasture, soil, and water quality too in order know exactly what to give.
https://www.tennesseemeatgoats.com/articles2/urinarycalculi06.html
https://www.weedemandreap.com/our-limping-goat-carpal-hyperextension-in-nigerian-dwarfs/
https://www.weedemandreap.com/goats-minerals-what-you-need-to-know/
https://www.weedemandreap.com/supplements-for-goats/
Thanks so much!
-Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hi DaNelle
I have two 2 week old kids that are losing hair around their eyes .I think it is a copper deficient. I gave their dam a copper bolus,will it help the kids hair loss around their eyes.Can I open a kid copper bolus and give them a few of them. THANK YOU!
Hi Gabby-
It is recommended to give 1 g copper per 20 pounds. If you dose with copper follow up with selenium and vitamin E. Before dosing check if they have any parasites that may be causing the issue. And it is best to talk with your veterinarian about the dosing and possible parasite issue.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hi Bobbi-
I just bought Land of Havilah wormer, it does not give a dose for 7lb kids .How much should I give them? Do you know where i can buy zinc,boron in bulk ? ThankYou .
Hi Gabby-
You can give 1/8 teaspoon for anything under 10 pounds.
DaNelle uses a mineral mix purchased from Amazon. You can check out her store here: https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbnpEWVhFSjhYY0ZtVnZURXQxVVE5RlIycUVUZ3xBQ3Jtc0tsTVZXcnQzRGJiLWE3Sm5fUHBxS0ZfZkFLWDVqcWRCV3gtYkJJNTVKTmM3MkotRVVrbDIyb056SmNPQXNrLXNKWkt3UVNxMzFwOXNfd3NGaldCc3hXZXRIWnMxT09XM29Kdy1tYVBCQTRqbkcxVWMtcw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fshop%2Fweedemreap
You can also talk to your local farm store and see if they have suggestions.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hi,
Is it normal for a goat to have a real bad coat after winter? It’s my first year with goats, so I have no experience with goat fur after winter. It’s a brown AN goat, she has scratched her belly a lot so the hairs are a lot shorter and darker, and she even has small nearly bald spots on the body somewhere. The coat just really doesn’t look like it did in fall! Also, the bridge of her nose is totally without hair, and the skin seems a little dry too.
I have been giving her minerals for goats, which does contain copper, and I would be surpriced if it was deficiency in minerals..
Maybe it’s just normal..
Thank you.
Hi Joseph-
No, it’s not normal for goats to have excessive hair loss and bald patches. Make sure the goats are getting enough of the minerals and know you may need to give a copper bolus once in awhile. Your goats may need to be dewormed as they can lose a lot of nutrients if overrun by worms.
Also, look for ringworm and external parasites. These most often cause hair loss, especially in patches.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Well, ok thank you. As far as I see, it does not look like ringworm though..
They were dewormed 2 months ago, but I’ll check if they might need again, and make sure to give them enough minerals.
Thanks for the reply!
Hi. What kind of hay do you use and what pellets do you give your goats?
Hi Lyla-
DaNelle feeds orchard grass, timothy hay, and teff hay.
The pelleted feed she uses can be found on her Resources page: https://www.weedemandreap.com/resources/
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Where does she buy her goat hay?
Hi Lyla-
DaNelle goes to Lameroux’s Hay.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Can you PLEASE ANSWER ME? I’m desperate for answers and I’m not getting any.
Hi Lyla-
What is the question you are asking?
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
What does DaNelle feed her boy goats? What does DaNelle feed her girl goats? How much does it cost a month for her to feed all of her goats?
Hello,
I was wondering if there is a grain mixture you can recommend? Or if you make your own mixture would you be willing to share recipe?
Thanks so much!
Hi Virgilia-
DaNelle feeds the goat grain linked on her Resources page: https://www.weedemandreap.com/resources/
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Thanks so much!
Hello ! What is in your grain seed mixture ?
Thanks
Hi Shannon-
It’s a mix of pelleted goat feed, black oil sunflower seeds, and pumpkin seeds. You can find the link to the pelleted feed and sunflower seeds on DaNelle’s Resources page: https://www.weedemandreap.com/resources/
There is a link to the pumpkin seeds in this article: https://www.weedemandreap.com/natural-goat-dewormer/
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
What are the little biscuits that you give the does after milking?
Thank you!
Hi Kandi-
You can find them on DaNelle’s Amazon store here: https://www.amazon.com/shop/weedemreap
They are under the goat section.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
I have a couple of wethers that I use for grazing and I feed them grain to keep their weight up in the transition of winter to spring just to keep their weight up. Is that ok?
Hi Sandy-
Just be sure grain is not their main diet (more of a treat or for extremely cold days) and anything you feed them is balanced in the phosphorus to calcium ratio so they do not develop urinary calculi.
Their weight should be maintained if they are receiving a quality hay/grass/forage, proper minerals, and supplements and dewormed regularly.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hi,
My husband and I just purchased a ND doe. Seller did not tell us the doe was pregnant until we went to pick her up. She is due in two or three months and this is out first time owning a goat. We are feeling very under-prepared! I’ve read your articles on preparing for kidding and watched lots of videos on assisting with birthing. I’ve seen/ helped hogs, a cat, and a dog birth so I’m not too intimidated by that aspect. But, the doe has been on a dry brown Bahia hay free choice and tucker milling goat pellets mixed with dry corn. I want to start her on alfalfa and a better feed (which feed do you recommend?), but I’m unsure of how to transition her into the new diet. Can I just swap out the hay or does it need to be a gradual change? I only have a small amount of her feed and it’s not sold near me. Can I start switching her feed now and if so, what ratio of old to new fee? Also, she is in milk and I want to dry her up to prepare for her kids. The owner told me to just not milk her. Can I really just stop milking her or does that need to be a slow process as well?
Thank you for your time,
Hannah
Hi Hannah-
To switch out the feed do it gradually over the next couple of weeks. Going from about a quarter, to half, 3/4, to all.
DaNelle links to the feeds she uses in the article.
Yes, you can just stop milking her, or you can do it gradually. Either way, check her for infection or any other problems.
Best of luck with everything!
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hi can you tell me if you still feed the mineral mix in this site that is given by 2 to 4 tablespoons in the feed mix? or is the kelp and herbamins powder taking the place of it? or is both mixes being given? Also where are you getting Herbamins powder Thanks for your time.
Hi Mary-
DaNelle top dresses their feed with the minerals and also gives the kelp free choice and baking soda when needed.
Any of the items listed in what DaNelle gives can be clicked on to follow the link where she buys it.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hello Bobbi! I understand what Mary was asking about the previous mix that was listed on DaNelle’s site. I am purchasing two Nigerian Dwarf Doelings and while waiting have been scouring all the reading material I could. I came upon the mix that was: 6.25 lbs dolomite, 1 lb. sulfur, 1 lb copper sulfate, 1 lb seaweed meal. 1/4 tsp daily as top dressing. I am bummed because I bought all the mixes and also the one linked to another site which was:
2-4 TBSP Daily
12c kelp, 12c diamond V Yeast, 1 c chapporal leaf, 1 milk thistle seed, 2c moringina, 2c spurilina, 2c nettle 1 cup mineral blend. Does this ring a bell? I noticed that the site has been updated so maybe these old recipes have been replaced? What do you think about me using these up first? I just bought all these in preparation for the new babies. It seems the new minerals in this updated article are more complete! Kinda all included in one formulas. Is that right? Thank you soo much for all the selfless help to all out here who are new to goats! I lean so much every time I visit the site!
Hello Brenda-
Yes, you can definitely use what you have. As long as your goats have some quality hay/grass and you are supplementing with some sort of mineral formula/plan, then they are going to do just fine.
You can always change it up based on your personal goats needs if you find that works best for you.
Thank you so much! -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hi, Can you please tell me where DaNelle gets her Chaffhaye? and is it pellet or bales? Thanks
Hi Mary-
If you click on the link for the chaffhaye in the article it brings you to their site. You can order from them or locate a dealer if there is one close to you.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hi, I feed the same as this site recommends. My question is what about treating with cooper bolus and how do you know when they need it. Thanks
Hi Mary-
The brand of copper DaNelle uses in Ultra Cruz. On the website and product it gives info on dosing. https://www.scahealth.com/p/ultracruz-copper-bolus-goat-supplement;jsessionid=MX3rFElv75JoxCNK_eSvhz9ZYjBNrUTUVgLHnXRSq_A_l4uN-mcS!-1487479393!1605966776687?gclid=Cj0KCQiAkuP9BRCkARIsAKGLE8XtBI1IuBiX7Ywi6qZReXirRY691BqNV53pPIQZOjyE1_B-fE4ihDAaAkT9EALw_wcB
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
So I only need to give this once a year? Sorry but this is my first year with goats, I always had sheep. Thanks so much for your time and kindness, Mary
Hi Mary-
Here is the link to the Ultra Cruz: https://www.scahealth.com/p/ultracruz-copper-bolus-goat-supplement;jsessionid=iLDtt8NFo5z23-9d_VBBvoBb39EEwQOohqQLq2iEZl9WmX-Y75Cz!-1474971545!1606011044677?gclid=Cj0KCQiAkuP9BRCkARIsAKGLE8U8H5jYVGns6QQXd2bOOeksW8kAi7ZuBUwIxNOd2uQeji5gzKu3koIaAtcFEALw_wcB
It gives info on dosing. Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Can the pumpkin seeds added to the feed ration be raw, whole seeds such as (GERBS Raw Whole Pumpkin Seeds) or is it best to have shelled pumpkin seeds?
Hi Neecie-
You can add them whole, however, the shelled are more efficient and better to use.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
How do you make sure they are getting their allotted amount of minerals and supplements? Do you give it to them on the milking stand?
And what about the Chaffhaye? When you say the poundage per goat per day, how do you do that when you have more than one goat with the feeder? Trust they are getting the amount they need?
Hi Elizabeth-
DaNelle gives the goats free minerals and also top dresses their feed when milking. Most goats will get plenty of hay, unless they are weak or small and in that case try to feed them in a separate area.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
So does the yeast not rise in their body from the heat? I’ve heard of that happening in dogs and cats—or is it a different kind of yeast? I’m new to goats and livestock animals in general, I just got my two at the beginning of this year, then had to get another one due to the passing of one which was caused by malnutrition and parasites because I was misinformed on how to feed him so I’m trying to prevent that for my other two.
Hi McKenzi-
This is a different type of yeast than what you make bread with.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Thanks for the response. I just wanted to make sure 🙂
Hi, Love all the links and video’s. I feed my 3 does the feed and supplements like you do my question is, I now have a young buck, do I feed him the same supplements and feed as the does? I am so afraid of him getting urinary tract infection. Thanks so much
Hi Mary-
Yes, you can feed them the same supplements. It is typically grain/corn that causes urinary calculi. They shouldn’t be fed grain/corn (too high in phosphorus) because it will throw the calcium phosphorus balance off, and this is what can lead to urinary calculi. You can also give feed with Ammonium Chloride to help prevent urinary calculi, but do NOT let your does have this. It can affect the uptake of calcium causing brittle bones later in life.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Since I have been feeding this feed and supplements listed here I have seen a change in my goats, in such a short time. They are jumping around and playing like they were babies, I have not seen them do this in a while. Thank you so much for the info of how you feed. I have always found it hard to get the supplements right. Everyone would give percentages but not cup amounts. I can not thank you enough, my goats look and feel so much better. They lick their lips and bowls, LOL, NOT JOKING. I love to watch them play and laugh when I watch them. Thanks again, Mary
I am a new goat Momma! We got our goats in April. They were born in March and we bottle fed them. We moved them to their pasture a couple weeks ago. If I understand correctly, we should not feed them the grain everyday. What about minerals? Should they get those daily? What brand mineral block do you recommend for kids? We have Nigerian Dwarf goats.
Hi Stacy-
Goats should have very minimal grain as it upsets their rumen.
DaNelle gives minerals free choice or sprinkles it on their food. This article has more info: https://www.weedemandreap.com/goats-minerals-what-you-need-to-know/
Best of luck with your goats!
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
does this go for sheep to?
Hi Maddy-
No, not really, especially the minerals with copper. Copper is toxic to sheep. Here is DaNelle’s suggestions on raising sheep: https://www.weedemandreap.com/how-to-raise-grass-fed-lamb-like-a-boss/
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hi DeNelle
Are these the right amount’s for goats ,or should it be higher .
number1
Calcium, min15 %
Calcium, max18 %
Phosphorus, min9 %
Salt, min9 %
Salt, max10.5 %
Magnesium, min1.0 %
Zinc, min5,630 ppm
Copper, min1,170 ppm
Selenium, min24 ppm
Vitamin A, min175,000 IU/lb
Vitamin D, min17,500 IU/lb
Vitamin E, min2,000 IU/lb
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Calcium (min) …… 12.00%
Phosphorus …… 4.00%
Potassium …… 0.3%
Magnesium …… 0.35%
Copper …… 7500 ppm
Selenium …… 10 ppm
Vitamin A (min) …… 15000 IU/lb
Vitamin D (min) …… 7250 IU/lb
Vitamin E (min) …… 20 IU/lb
Calcium (max) …… 15.00%
Salt …… 22.00%
Sulfur …… 4.75%
Zinc …… 400 ppm
Iodine …… 40 ppm
Hi Gabby-
Those look pretty good. To check all the numbers this sight can help you with that. https://goats.extension.org/goat-nutrition-minerals/
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hi DaNelle
Is Premier 1 goat mineral premax a good balance for goats
Can I purchase the ingredients for your grain and supplement mineral mix somewhere else then Amazon,are they available at Sprouts or Trader Jose’s.
Hi Gabby-
Yes, the Premier is fine, just make sure your goats are getting all the minerals, etc. suggested in the article.
DaNelle gets hers from Amazon, so not sure about other sources.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
We have Nubian goats in Maine. I was born on a dairy farm and have lived on a farm most of my life. I have similar views. We have chickens as well. I have posted answers on Quora.com, you are welcome to look at them. Search: “Amos Cline” for my comments. I know about cows, goats, pigs, chickens and such. I have been so fortunate to be trained by my ancestors which were old-school farmers, I have information that is rare today (common sense farm knowledge).
Hello, I ordered everything from links and I got milk thistle seed.. Do you grind that up to make a powder? Or is link wrong?
Hi Tiffany-
You just give the goats the seeds, no need to grind it up.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Thank you so much!
Where do you store your hay?
Hi Anna-
Just in a small lean-to shed. Thanks -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Is it okay to feed goats cracked corn or whole corn kernels regularly?
Hi Janet-
I would not recommend feeding corn to goats. They can consume a little, but it is not the best thing for their rumen, and whole corn is very hard on their teeth.
If you have other options to feed them, I would not feed them corn.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hi, i have an angora thats had 4 kids over 3 years. Im curious as to why they have all been bucks. Is it just coincidence or can any external factors influence the sex of offspring??
Hi Duncan-
As with other mammals, the male determines the sex of the baby. So, if you are using the same male to breed each time your results will be similar. Also, some characteristics are sex linked and those goats bred for a specific genetic trait can sometimes have sex determination linked to them. If there are environmental factors that would change the hormones the baby is exposed to in utero this would lead to sex determinate consequences as well. However, I am not versed enough in the sex-linked characteristics or determination to give you a better answer than that.
You can take this up with a goat geneticists if you have one at your state’s ag extension university.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Pat Coleby’s goat book has some information regarding this also.
Where did you find the purple syringe in your picture? Thank you!
Hi Amanda-
It is from Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Ardes-20Ml-Syringe-Dosenut-Drencher/dp/B01BH4BEL6
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
I’ve been following Weed Em and Reap on YouTube for a while and used yall’s videos to finally convince my family that we too could own goats! We’re getting our first four kids this month and we’re so excited!
My main question is, do kids need to eat differently than adults? Three of our kids will be 8 weeks old when we get them and the other one will be about 11 weeks old. They’re all weaned. I’m assuming we feed them like adult goats but, didn’t want to overdo it or not give them something that they need. Thanks in advance!
Hi Joelle-
Yes, you can give them the same type of feed as an adult goat, just smaller quantities. Just make sure they are growing and gaining weight.
Best of luck with your goats!
-Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hi!
I’m about to get 2-3 Nigerian Dwarf Goats and I’m super excited. I was wondering if you have to feed grain to goats that aren’t pregnant or giving milk? Thanks!
Hi Lily-
It’s best not to give them grain as it will upset their rumen.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hi I own pygmy goats and show them. I have been doing research on the benefits of kelp and decided I would like to try it. I watch your videos all the time and see that you use it. I was wondering what brand you use? Thank you !
Hi Sydney-
Click on the link for the kelp in the article (in the recipe portion) and it will take you to what DaNelle buys.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hi, We recently had a goat that miscarried, and she is very skinny. We were wondering what you would recommend feeding her to put weight on her quickly. We also have another doe that is going to kid in June, and we have heard differing opinions as to whether we should feed her more or less grain in the last two months. Any input you have would be much appreciated! Thank you for your time.
Hi Rebekah-
This is how DaNelle feeds: https://www.weedemandreap.com/optimal-nutritional-goat-diet/
You should make sure that the hay and grass is high quality (enough protein).
Also, if your doe is skinny she may need to be dewormed, even if she was dewormed previously. It would be best to do a fecal test to see if she has internal parasites.
This is how DaNelle deworms: https://www.weedemandreap.com/natural-goat-dewormer/
For your other doe you do want to be careful want you feed her so she doesn’t develop toxemia. This article covers this info: https://www.weedemandreap.com/natural-goat-dewormer/
Best of luck with your does.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Is it bad to feed my ND goats straight baled alfalfa? I read somewhere that it has too much protein and other stuff. Should I be asking for a grass mix (timothy,bermuda) instead of straight alfalfa?
Hi Shaun-
Goats will do better on alfalfa than other livestock. However, I am not a fan of using alfalfa as their single source of nutrition and allowing them constant access to it.
When alfalfa first comes on it is very lush, and yes some goats can do ok, but many will bloat and males can develop urinary calculi if they don’t have adequate phosphorus intake to balance out the calcium content in alfalfa. (Although typically males develop urinary calculi from too much grain which is high in phosphorus).
Plus, if you put a goat on alfalfa (especially fresh) that hasn’t been eating free choice alfalfa they may develop rumen issues. Fresh and free range alfalfa is something a goat needs to work up to. Some folks turn their goats out on alfalfa fields or just let them eat baled alfalfa for just a little bit each day. This seems to work because they get the great nutrition alfalfa offers without over doing it.
I’ve also heard goats can have issues if the alfalfa is wet, but I haven’t personally dealt with that.
So, to sum up, yes a goat can be fed alfalfa, but you need to watch them closely for digestive issues, kidney issues, and nutritional imbalances, therefore a mix of grasses would be better.
I hope that helps.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Thank you! I went to the feed store today and got a bale of Timothy hay, as they did not have a mix. I will mix in small amounts of the Alfalfa I have with this.
I am getting some Nubian and Nigerian Dwarfs later this year, I am located in New Zealand but I cant find any chaffhaye pellets. Is there something else that would do the same job?
Hi Rachel-
You can try to contact the Chaffhaye folks and see if they can ship or have anything comparable in your area: https://chaffhaye.com/dealer-locator
Otherwise you can feed alfalfa, a little bit of molasses, and also give a probiotic if you can’t find actual Chaffhaye.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
I live in Kentucky and it doesn’t get as hot here as it does in AZ . I’m getting goats again after having them for 3years for showing . We only had them from April till about September . And we had to feed specific things cause of Showing. We will not be milking . So could I feed them the grain/seed with oats and then sprinkle the mineral blend . With alfalfa hay . Also should I do twice a day feedings since I won’t be milking ? Sorry if this is complicated. I just want to have the best for my goats ! Lol
Hi Baylee-
Goats can be fed once a day as long as they can graze on pasture or hay for the rest of the day. However, goats should have little to no grain as this can upset their rumen. The rest should be fine.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
This info is super helpful! I have a question- about how long does each of those recipes last you? I’m trying to decide whether I want to make double or more. Sometimes buying things in larger quantities is a better value. I’ve had goats a few years but they don’t seem to be thriving like they were before. I use some of the same things you guys use but not all of them and not as consistently. I’m really hoping that tweaking be their diets and supplement routine will do the trick. Thank you so much!
Hi Aimee-
It depends on how much you feed each goat and how many goats you have, but the seed mix lasts a couple weeks, and the mineral mix lasts for several weeks.
Best of luck with it! Thanks -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hi. What copper bolus do you use? And how often? Thank you.
Hi Courtney-
DaNelle uses UltraCruz copper bolus. This videos gives more details on how she cares for goats including the copper bolus. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=msst2zi_O1w
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hello! We are getting our two female fainting goats very shortly so we are non stop researching. I have followed weed em and reap for a long time. We were wondering what size bag you buy for the kelp and Diamond V Yeast to make it 12 cups each. Thank you!
Hello-
That’s great you are getting your goats soon!
If you click on the links in the article for the products it will take you to what DaNelle buys.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
We have 4 adult Nigerian Dwarf goats with a buckling coming this weekend. We have been feeding a couple of flakes of hay a day with just a large scoop of grain for supplement. They have mineral and baking soda free choice. My question is…I’ve seen most people say that they give bales of hay at a time. If we did that they would eat the entire bale in one sitting. There is no way we could have enough hay stored for the winter. How do you know how much is enough?
Hi Sarah-
Goats need about 2-4 pounds of hay and grass per day. If you notice young goats are not gaining weight or older goats are losing weight then feed a bit more and also make sure you are feeding high quality hay.
I hope that helps!
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hi Shanna-
I am not sure of an exact substitute for the Diamond V Yeast, but you could talk to your local feed store about one or perhaps asking them to have it in stock.
The link in the article for the Diamond V Yeast takes you to the Amazon page to order a yeast product online. All sizes (except for the 25lbs) are under $95 and the shipping is free. If that doesn’t work for you, then try the link from Fias Co. Farms in their article here to get the Diamond V brand: https://fiascofarm.com/goats/minerals.htm
And maybe you can find a nearby dealer.
I hope you can find a source that works for you.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
The link in the article goes to HorseTech GutWorks. But thank you I will keep researching and see what else I can find. Because the 3 feed stores in a 50 mile radius won’t carry it or don’t The closest location that does carry it is 6 hours away. I appreciate the tips though.
Hi Shanna-
You can use the HoerseTech product in place of the Diamond V.
Thanks! -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
What would be comparable to Diamond V Yeast? To get a bag here to South Carolina is $95, which is way out of our budget.
I have an 8 week old dwarf nigerian, recently after his morning bottle he acts like he is going to vomit but doesnt… help !
Hi Cindy-
Goats don’t vomit very often, but will if they’ve eaten something toxic, although that doesn’t sound like your issue.
Typically when a goat acts like they are going to vomit they are choking/aspirating. This can come from consuming food too quickly. You may need to get a slower flow nipple for your goat if this is the issue.
It could also be an issue with urinary calculi, which typically affects male goats, especially if they have been castrated. Often they looked hunched over and as if they are straining. The sometimes paw at their bellies, grit their teeth, and will vocalize if in pain. Check to see if he is urinating, and if so, if the quantity is diminished or has any blood in the urine. Also check the penis area for swelling and yellowing. If there are any of these signs call your vet.
If none of these are the problem I would call your vet so he can check your goat and if his rumen is functioning properly.
Best wishes for your little goat.
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Good Evening DaNelle and Bobbi!
We just brought home our very first Nigerian dwarf kids two weeks ago! I have been researching nutrition etc. My kids are 10 weeks old now. Is it ok to begin them on baking soda as well? I saw this tip mentioned before on a farm website as well. I just don’t know how much to feed. Also do you put apple cider vinegar in your kids water? Once a week I introduce something new, last week was black oil sunflower seeds. This week was a couple raisins here and there. Thanks so much for all of your help and all of the information you offer to us- the aspiring homesteaders. Have a wonderul and prosperous, healthy 2019!
Hello-
That’s super you have new ND kids! And it’s great you are working so hard on their nutrition!
There is debate if you should offer them baking soda free choice. DaNelle gives it only when needed.
Yes, you can put ACV in goats water, about 1 tablespoon per gallon.
I hope that helps! Best of luck with everything!
Thank you and Happy New Year!
-Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hi Bobbi!
What about coccidia? Our breeder said to purchase toltrazuril in case of a coccidia infection and persistent diarrhea. Fiascofarm mentioned their first “chemical” choice is sulfadimethoxine. What do you use? Or, do you go the herbal only route? We plan to use the Molly’s Herbs weekly prevention routine. I’m just worried about the best treatment to have at the ready in case of an outbreak. Thanks so much for your help (again)!
Coccidiosis usually affects baby goats or goats that are extremely stressed. Prevention is the best method for controlling Coccidiosis, and the one I prefer to go with. Keeping the goats area clean and dry and with fresh food and water will help, along with ensuring your goats are not overcrowded. Pasture rotation can help with this. Also, provide your goats with optimal nutrition and deworm them to make sure they are in tip-top health. If you do have to treat for Coccidiosis, or other diseases, know it’s ok (and sometimes it is necessary) to go the chemical route. Just be aware if the medications you are giving your goats have milk or meat withdrawal times. Before you treat for Coccidiosis though, a fecal testing is necessary to diagnose Coccidiosis. So, make sure you get the testing done and then follow up as needed. Your vet can suggest something usually based on your goats’ specific needs. I think this article sums up everything quite well: https://www.tennesseemeatgoats.com/articles2/coccidiosis06.html
I hope your goats stay well and healthy! Thank you -Bobbi
I am searching for moringa leaf on websites other than amazon and see moringa seed much more frequently and at a more affordable price. Are they interchangeable? Also, what are the health benefits of the diamond v yeast? I was noticing that the wheat middlings used to create it are part of the end product and have to avoid all wheat. Is there another option? I am grain-free and need grain-free dairy, which is why we are raising goats. What is your opinion on the grain they are consuming in the yeast?
Hi Monica-
For your question about Moringa leaf vs. seed, this article will give you the information on the nutritional differences between the two: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2213453016300362
The health benefits for the yeast are best summed up in these two articles:
https://fiascofarm.com/goats/minerals.htm
https://www.allaboutfeed.net/Home/General/2007/1/Probiotic-yeast-in-small-ruminants-AAF011135W/
If you find you really want to avoid using the yeast you can supplement your goats with a probiotic. It won’t be quite the same but it will help their ruminant system.
I hope that helps!
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Moringa are very common in Asian markets or if you have friends who are originally from Asia Im sure they can give you a tip or two as to where to find them. they probably are growing them in their own garden.
I love your blog so much Danelle! You inspired me to start my own blog via your webinar (I seriously watched it and then went and bought a domain-hubs thinks I am crazy) and I have plans to start a mini farm/homestead here in a few years (I want to be able to quit working first-hubs is gone a lot and I can’t do it all and work full time). Until then we will live vicariously through you watching your nigerian dwarfs prance around. LOVE THEM.
I know that kelp meal is to help with copper! And I know that the suggested Redmond salt mineral contains the sodium. I was wondering if you had a blog on what the other stuff in your mineral mix offers to or does for the goaties? Knowing that they need selenium, zinc, copper, calcium, phosphorus, iodine, iron, manganese, and sodium in thier minerals I was wondering what is for what? And I love that you provide everyone with your holistic recipies❤❤❤
Hi Kacie-
The items that make up the Goat Supplement/Mineral Mixture are things that add extra protein and doses of the minerals you mentioned, along with improving the overall ruminant function of the goat.
I hope that helps!
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Yes! Thank you! I’m excited about this mix! I’ve known my girls have needed more copper to thier diet but haven’t been able to find a good pre mixed mineral mix!
I got the kelp meal in but the bag looks a little different than it does on Amazon! There is just extra writing at the bottom tha says “multi purpose plant food 1-0-2” just wanting to make sure they sent the right stuff before I use it!
If you ordered it through the link in the article, then yes, that’s the right kind. I hope they like it!
Finally got the whole mix together! The girls love it!!!
Awesome!! And I am so glad they love it! 🙂
I have a 50lbs Nigerian wether, I have been feeding half a cup of grain twice a day for 2 years. We have never had any problems with him. I recently purchased 3 Nigerian wethers weighing about 20lbs and so many people have told me, don’t give them grain, and don’t give them pellets. I’m very confused, we lost a wether about a month ago to bloat, we had been feeding him the same way we had the older goat. They get plenty of hay and are let out to graze. I also give them baking soda, with goat mineral salt. My question is, what should I feed the 3 new goats, they were born in April?
Thank you~Robin
Hi Robin-
Goats do not need grain and for many it can upset their rumen. I choose not to feed my goats grain to avoid rumen issues, unless I need to give a boost to a pregnant or lactating doe. For your new goats I wouldn’t give them grain, just lots of high quality forage and alfalfa either as hay or pellets and supplement as needed if you notice they are not growing or are showing other signs of nutritional deficiencies. These articles by DaNelle go into pretty good detail on how to feed and supplement your goats.
https://www.weedemandreap.com/what-do-goats-eat/
https://www.weedemandreap.com/supplements-for-goats/
https://www.weedemandreap.com/goats-minerals-what-you-need-to-know/
I hope that helps! Best of luck!
Thank you – Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
On some of the sites I have read that bucks and wethers can be fed timothy hay pellets. Is this the same pellets that are fed to horses or is there a different one for goats. Do you know if this causes bloat, it is a pellet but it is a hay? If it causes bloat why does the pellet cause this and not the hay? thanks
Hello-
When feeding male goats you do need to watch what they eat because they can become susceptible to urinary calculi. If your feed has a good calcium to phosphorus ratio (2:1) your male goats should be just fine. Pellets in comparison to hay can cause more bloat, simply because the goats consume them faster than hay and the quick consumption can cause bloat. Grain is more likely to cause bloat and rumen upset than any pellets. However, if you have a goat susceptible to bloat, giving them hay is better than pellets. Just check the quality of the pellets or hay you feed and make sure it has adequate nutrition to support your goats. Also, be sure to supplement you goats appropriately.
I hope that helps!
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
You say to feed the grain mixture 1/2 -1 cup per goat..
How do you know each goat
Gets their portion…I put the grain in 1 bowl for all 6 of my goats…so 6 cups grain?
Hi Deborah-
DaNelle feeds her goats grains, seeds, etc. individually. They each get their own bowl so she knows exactly how much they each get. If you feed them all together you won’t know how much each get. The dominant goats get more typically. So, you can either separate your goats when they eat or just hope they get close to equal amounts. I hope that helps!
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Hmmm…I guess my goats are going to have to eat their Brussel sprouts. 🙂
We have 5 acres in Oregon that the goats are tasked with nibbling down to reduce fire hazard, blackberries and poison oak. We also milk them on an as-needed basis and let their babies nurse most of the milk.
I let them graze until about 5 pm. They get alfalfa and some wet COB (that’s what they call it here – rolled corn, oats and barley with molasses) pretty much all year. They always clean up the grain ~2 lbs/day/mama, and if they don’t clean up the alfalfa stems, I cut back on the grain and hay until they do. If you let them, they would only eat the best alfalfa and all the grain they could, and baaaah like you were killing them if they don’t get it on time.
Thank you for the links! I have been wondering what filled the mason jars.
On a side note, thank you for being such a family friendly YouTube channel and blog. My daughter is 6 and recently discovered your videos on my list of subscribed channels. She is enamored with your whole family and adores Lydia as a role model. She even changed our goats name from Oregon to Doris 😊. She does look very much like your Doris so it’s ok.
Thank you again for the supplement list and links. We will be breeding our girls this November and it’s never too late to start packing in the nutrition.
Hi Chelsea-
Thank you so much for the kind words, and for both you and your daughter watching! Love the name change, that’s too funny! Good luck with your goats and your breeding season. And you are definitely right about the nutrition! Thank you and Happy Goating! -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
We are getting our first goats in the spring (HOORAY!) and this is SO helpful! Thank you! Love your youtube channel too. 🙂
Hi Katy-
How exciting! Let’s us know how it goes when you get them. Thank you for watching, reading, and the very kind words! Best wishes and Happy Goating!
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)
Katy we are too! So exciting! Our doelings will be born in April and we will get then in june 😍
I see in your videos that you use choke chain on your goats (at least some). I am wanting to get one for mine. What is the size you use for your goats? I bought 2mm 14″ long, but it does not go over their head/horns. I wanted to get a rough idea from you!
Hi Karen-
DaNelle uses an 18 inch collar when a plastic chain is holding it together, but a 20 inch collar when they are using the chain alone. It’s best if you buy a few different ones to find the right size, then return the ones that don’t work. I hope that helps. Best of luck!
Thank you -Bobbi (DaNelle’s Assistant)